Andrej Karpathy on memetics

It is nice to see that some of the thought leaders of the day embracing memetics:

Lex: What do you think about the idea that ideas are the organisms. The memes?
Andrej: Yes, love it. 100%.
Lex: Are you able to walk around with that notion for a while that there's an evolutionary kind-of-process with ideas as well?
Andrej: There absolutely is. There's memes just like genes, and they compete and they live in our brains. It's beautiful.
Lex: Are we silly humans thinking that we're the organsisms? Is it possible that the primary orgaisms are the ideas?

This is from the "Book recommendation" section of this video.